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	<title>Comments on: &#8230; Any Club that would Accept Me as a Member</title>
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		<title>By: Lady Grinning Soul</title>
		<link>http://remittancegirl.com/discussions/any-club-that-would-accept-me-as-a-member/comment-page-1/#comment-18755</link>
		<dc:creator>Lady Grinning Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The idea of sadistic submissives intrigues me; not because I think they don&#039;t exist - in fact I am absolutely certain they do - but because, in my head, I find it hard to understand how that would manifest. Any clarity?

Two things occurred to me whilst reading this. The first pre-empted your use of the term &quot;target market&quot;, and was my sudden remembering of the cover of (I think) a Radiohead EP which reads &quot;You are a target market&quot;. That idea really haunted me and I couldn&#039;t think of a way for it to not be true. Because we are; but we&#039;re also so much more than that. It&#039;s a very unsettling idea.

The second thing I realised was that I have been tip toeing around the idea that we need &quot;more relationship models&quot; - a term I think I stole from Rachel Rabbit White - when, actually, I think it&#039;s that we need to recognise that relationships should be fluid, just as emotions are fluid and sexuality is fluid, etc. What I would rather see is a breaking of assumptions. We enter into everything with so many assumptions, and I feel it would be far more human to try and see outside the confines of assumption. I think many writers do that in their work, either because they know that labeling their characters simplifies them, or because they don&#039;t want to be predictable. In any case, I think this lies quite parallel to your point about not classifying people&#039;s sexuality as well.

When we stop labeling, we start thinking. And that must be a good thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of sadistic submissives intrigues me; not because I think they don&#8217;t exist &#8211; in fact I am absolutely certain they do &#8211; but because, in my head, I find it hard to understand how that would manifest. Any clarity?</p>
<p>Two things occurred to me whilst reading this. The first pre-empted your use of the term &#8220;target market&#8221;, and was my sudden remembering of the cover of (I think) a Radiohead EP which reads &#8220;You are a target market&#8221;. That idea really haunted me and I couldn&#8217;t think of a way for it to not be true. Because we are; but we&#8217;re also so much more than that. It&#8217;s a very unsettling idea.</p>
<p>The second thing I realised was that I have been tip toeing around the idea that we need &#8220;more relationship models&#8221; &#8211; a term I think I stole from Rachel Rabbit White &#8211; when, actually, I think it&#8217;s that we need to recognise that relationships should be fluid, just as emotions are fluid and sexuality is fluid, etc. What I would rather see is a breaking of assumptions. We enter into everything with so many assumptions, and I feel it would be far more human to try and see outside the confines of assumption. I think many writers do that in their work, either because they know that labeling their characters simplifies them, or because they don&#8217;t want to be predictable. In any case, I think this lies quite parallel to your point about not classifying people&#8217;s sexuality as well.</p>
<p>When we stop labeling, we start thinking. And that must be a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Squeaky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squeaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a sucker for labels. Mostly because my experience of the world is so limited and self-centred that they help me to understand things - gives me an &quot;in&quot;, if you will. I&#039;m only recently discovering all of the wonderful diversity if kink (just this last year or so). Well, actually, allowing myself to discover it (i was bought up to be a &quot;good girl&quot;, don&#039;tcherknow), and it constantly reminds me of the individuality that is out there and, better, reminds me to respect individuals and their choices and drives as never before. Labels are useful to me, but only as a springboard to understanding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a sucker for labels. Mostly because my experience of the world is so limited and self-centred that they help me to understand things &#8211; gives me an &#8220;in&#8221;, if you will. I&#8217;m only recently discovering all of the wonderful diversity if kink (just this last year or so). Well, actually, allowing myself to discover it (i was bought up to be a &#8220;good girl&#8221;, don&#8217;tcherknow), and it constantly reminds me of the individuality that is out there and, better, reminds me to respect individuals and their choices and drives as never before. Labels are useful to me, but only as a springboard to understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Ed Magusson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Ed Magusson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the bigger weakness is not the ability to avoid being offended, but the fact that classification of people allows us to demonize and maltreat the ones who aren&#039;t us.

However, keeping it to the kink/sex world, I find that the problem with classifications is that it allows short cuts that eventually suck the juice out.  Take incest porn.  Can&#039;t get the &quot;juice&quot; from the characters--well, let&#039;s make them related!  There are exceptions, but most of the stuff I&#039;ve found online, and the pseudo-incest sold by Amazon, fits that definition.  We lose out on the sexiness and powerfulness of the relationship between two people by immediately jumping to that short cut.

Besides, in the kink world, my experience was that the most enjoyable individuals to talk with were pansexual.  It was all good to them, and they treated each encounter as it&#039;s own, without any particular care about labels or roles or much beyond, &quot;that was good!  Let&#039;s do it some more!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the bigger weakness is not the ability to avoid being offended, but the fact that classification of people allows us to demonize and maltreat the ones who aren&#8217;t us.</p>
<p>However, keeping it to the kink/sex world, I find that the problem with classifications is that it allows short cuts that eventually suck the juice out.  Take incest porn.  Can&#8217;t get the &#8220;juice&#8221; from the characters&#8211;well, let&#8217;s make them related!  There are exceptions, but most of the stuff I&#8217;ve found online, and the pseudo-incest sold by Amazon, fits that definition.  We lose out on the sexiness and powerfulness of the relationship between two people by immediately jumping to that short cut.</p>
<p>Besides, in the kink world, my experience was that the most enjoyable individuals to talk with were pansexual.  It was all good to them, and they treated each encounter as it&#8217;s own, without any particular care about labels or roles or much beyond, &#8220;that was good!  Let&#8217;s do it some more!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s very hard to find a place to pin your membership badges when you’re naked.&quot; Reminded me of being a kid and threading my mums sewing pins or bobby pins under the skin of my fingers utterly enthralled by it.Really that&#039;s just a share.

I agree with most of the rest. Except in simplifying things I believe we&#039;ve created so much red-tape we&#039;ve over-complicated it instead. But that&#039;s just me. I think the worlds fucked up and only getting worse anyway.

thanks for another thought provoking post RG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s very hard to find a place to pin your membership badges when you’re naked.&#8221; Reminded me of being a kid and threading my mums sewing pins or bobby pins under the skin of my fingers utterly enthralled by it.Really that&#8217;s just a share.</p>
<p>I agree with most of the rest. Except in simplifying things I believe we&#8217;ve created so much red-tape we&#8217;ve over-complicated it instead. But that&#8217;s just me. I think the worlds fucked up and only getting worse anyway.</p>
<p>thanks for another thought provoking post RG</p>
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		<title>By: I_Sadist</title>
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		<dc:creator>I_Sadist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know for a fact that there are sadistic submissives - just as there are masochistic dominants.  Human nature, hell, MOTHER nature has taught us that every possible combination can be completed under the right circumstance.  Science has proven the impossible... possible.  Nature has done it just by sticking us on a floating rock in the middle of space (excuse the lyric use here).  HUMAN NATURE is invariably more complex.  Choice.  Higher thought.  Animal nature.  It all blends together to make the human possible and impossible to sort out. 

Thank the fucking god!  

I&#039;d really be disappointed if you knew my moves ahead of time.  

I just said this in response to the post she listed in her comment, RG, but in applying labels, it&#039;s best to stick it on one&#039;s self, because in applying it to anything, or anyone else, we are going to fuck it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know for a fact that there are sadistic submissives &#8211; just as there are masochistic dominants.  Human nature, hell, MOTHER nature has taught us that every possible combination can be completed under the right circumstance.  Science has proven the impossible&#8230; possible.  Nature has done it just by sticking us on a floating rock in the middle of space (excuse the lyric use here).  HUMAN NATURE is invariably more complex.  Choice.  Higher thought.  Animal nature.  It all blends together to make the human possible and impossible to sort out. </p>
<p>Thank the fucking god!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d really be disappointed if you knew my moves ahead of time.  </p>
<p>I just said this in response to the post she listed in her comment, RG, but in applying labels, it&#8217;s best to stick it on one&#8217;s self, because in applying it to anything, or anyone else, we are going to fuck it up.</p>
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