I rarely weigh in on these sorts of discussions because, for the most part, I think people should do what they want to do and what feels good.
However, after Sylvanus posted his blog on his dislike of Hitachi wands, I noticed some of the responses were really quite defensive. In fact, some were fairly dripping with vitriol. “How DARE a man tell me how I should achieve orgasm!” was the undertext of a number of the responses.
Firstly, I will admit that I think Sylvanus sometimes has a bit of an arrogant way of putting things. It’s just the way the guy communicates. And sometimes it gets up my nose. But the post on vibes was, by his standards, quite mild, I thought.
Then, when I wrote a comment on his blog post, supporting his position, I got a flurry of DMs. Some of them quite testy in tone. I was a little puzzled. I thought about it for a while and came to some conclusions.
First, let me make my position clear. I have had a Hitachi used on me – I have never owned one. Once was enough, thank you.
Did it feel good? Not to me. Perhaps I’m too sensitive, or perhaps it’s just a matter of getting used to it, but – besides the ridiculous noise level, as Sylvanus remarked on – I honestly couldn’t tell whether I was having an orgasm or being electrocuted. If it had felt good, would I have a different opinion? No.
There is currently no conclusive scientific data that would indicate that vibrators cause desensitization or nerve damage. There is some evidence of short-term desensitization, but nothing lasting. Before you breathe a sigh of relief on this one, you also need to realize that there is very little research being done on this topic. Like a lot of women’s health issues (including heart disease) much more research has been done on the male of the species than on the female. Moreover, the controversial aspect of doing research of this kind, the attendant legal risks, etc., are such that I still feel there is not enough solid data available on this subject to base your decision on the little that exists.
Lacking good scientific data – one must go with one’s own gut feelings and experiences. So, what follows is my own opinion, pure and simple, based on a number of years of vibrator ownership and varying degrees of uses.
I’ve never had too much of a problem bringing myself to orgasm manually. With reasonable privacy and lack of distraction, I can get there in between 5 – 8 mins. Of course, this varies enormously. If I’m really turned on before I start, I can manage it in under a minute. My first estimation is starting from a sort of neutral mindset.
However, I bought my first vibe about 6 years ago – this was well after someone used a Hitachi on me. In fact, I think I held off buying one for so long, because of the experience I had with it.
I bought something a lot less powerful. Still, I was blown away at how fast it could get me to orgasm. For about 6 months, I had a love affair with it. I used it every time I masturbated. It could get me from absolutely uninterested to a screaming orgasm in no time. I was smitten.
Then one day, I found my batteries had died. I was horny and I wanted to come. I tried to go back to the tried and true manual technique and found it took me a full 20 minutes. I was sore, frustrated and not a little disturbed.
A few days later, I tried again. I reasoned that, you know, some days one’s body is just a little stubborn. But same result: it took me ages, I got hand cramp. By the time I’d brought myself, I was pissed off and sweaty and perplexed. My body had never been this uncooperative before.
Perhaps it was just my body going through a phase, I thought. But no. I replenished by battery supply and used the vibe and, yeehaw, wouldn’t you know it? I came in moments. And what was scarier was, I could feel it. My body had become so accustomed to the vibrator, it felt comfortable and easy and almost instantly gratifying.
That scared the shit out of me. I didn’t want to become dependent on a machine for my orgasms. And clearly, whether it was physical or mental, I had become dependent. I could achieve orgasm without it, but nothing like before.
So I decided to really limit my usage of the vibrator – to twice a month. Slowly, my ability to get myself off manually came back. But it took about three months to do it. And let me tell you, it took a lot of discipline not to reach for that vibe.
Now perhaps I’m an anomaly, but I don’t think so: I’ve been able to find too many posts for help on the net from women who are having problems achieving orgasm without a vibe. And yes, I’ve also seen all those articles, supposedly from “knowledgeable professionals’, who say that vibes don’t desensitize and don’t make it harder for you to achieve an orgasm manually through masturbation or with a partner. Well, I’m sorry. That was not my experience.
But hell, you might say, who cares if I’m dependent on a vibe?
Well, that’s true and that would be your choice. However, I can think of a number of reasons why you might not want to be dependent:
- Ever wanted a quick wank in the toilet on a plane – forget it. No plug in and even if you have something battery operated, do you REALLY want to have to take it out and put it in a separate little tray going through security?
- Although this isn’t strictly applicable to me, as humans we like to be the authors or at least the helpers of orgasms for our partners. Having to use a vibe might affect your partner’s sense of being able to do that for you.
- Ever hankered for a surreptitious rut or a bit of frottage in a not exactly private place where speed might be of the essence? Well, you can still do that, but how often are you going to want to if you can’t come in that situation?
There aren’t many things that are free in life, but self-administered orgasms are one of them. If you have to buy a vibe, power it with batteries or plug it in, it ain’t free any more.
I want to address the issue of partners because I saw some sneering remarks about men with little egos who got shirty because they couldn’t compete with a vibrator. Firstly, I would be a shirty, pissed off lesbian if I couldn’t bring my female lover to orgasm without a vibe. So, please, let’s leave the gender crap out of it. This is not a feminist issue.
There used to be a time when men weren’t expected to ensure the women they were with orgasmed at all. Hell, half the world didn’t even acknowledge that female orgasms existed. Now – and in my opinion: thank GOD – making a woman come has become part of what defines a man as a good lover.
Whether it is true or not, if your lover feels inadequate because he or she can’t get you off without a machine, it’s serious. And I don’t believe it’s just his or her problem. Ultimately, if someone doesn’t feel adequate, you have a serious problem in your relationship. Why court that?
So, I’m sure I have now pissed off a goodly proportion of my readers. Well, you know, I’m up for that. You don’t think you’re addicted or desensitized? Fine.
Here’s my challenge: don’t use your vibrator for two weeks. If you come just as easily, then ignore me: I’m full of shit and you’ve lost nothing.
If it turns out that you do have problems orgasming and this disturbs you – now you know. And the good news is, by all accounts, if you stop using the vibe and be patient and persistent with your hand, your ability to get yourself off manually will return. It just might take a while.
Oh¦ and yes, I still own a vibrator. A very nice one. I use it on the very rare occasions when I absolutely, positively must get off and don’t have the time to do it by hand. But that’s very rare. I’ve used it about three times in six months.
You’re right.
Completely and totally right.
I have a hitachi. After reading both Sylvanus’ and your post I thought about it and thought about it and decided to take up your challenge.
I didn’t(haven’t) used it in over two weeks. I have always struggled with using my hand to get off, but thought I’d give it a go. My life and such worked out that for two weeks not only did I not use my vibe, I didn’t have an orgasm either.
Saturday evening I finally felt the need. It took some time, but I did, eventually come. It didn’t surprise me that it took some time, as it always has. Sunday night, again, I was inspired to masturbate.
It was easier.
Yesterday…I was blown away. Between 2:30am and 11:30 last night I had four orgasms, all manual, all what I would consider relatively easy to accomplish. Even with the Hitachi in that time period by the last one I would have been struggling.
My vibe is now being relegated to relieving muscles aches and I will be, eventually, investing in something a bit gentler on the nerves.
thank you for posting the discussion, for drawing attention to the issue.
Wow!
Thank you for taking the challenge, and I figure anything that allows us to discover more about ourselves is a good thing!
That was very articulate, thanks!
With female TV icons waxing poetic about vibrators, I’ve always felt a little on the outside because I prefer to do it the old fashion way… although I sometimes do it the new fangled way and pull my vibrator out (I moved 10 months ago and haven’t unpacked it yet).
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Yes.
absolutely has had an effect on my orgasms.
There are days, even as long as a week that i won’t use it.
Sometimes i crave it, but i find (IMHO) that the O i get from not using a vibe is way more intense than the vibe O’s.
I call them Tsnami O’s (no vibe)
or surface o’s (vibe given)
i don’t have years of study behind me, but this is what i’ve experienced.
btw…i have only used a vibe for a few months.
not going to take away that which i was freely given…my Orgasms *are* that important to me.
nilla
I have already taken this challenge before you posed it. Although not intentionally. But I masturbate pretty much 6 times a week and use a vibe once or twice a month (and I have four!).
Quite honestly, I prefer the vibe – but I’m too lazy. It’s easier to wash my hands than it is to sterilize my sex toys (at least in my mind). Most of the time it’s “I’m horny. I’m horny now. Are any of my toys clean? No? Darn. Hands it is, then.”
I don’t know. If a woman is informed of the risk and she chooses to use only vibes anyway, it’s not my problem.
This is something I too have pondered. I’ve begun to regard my vibe as a tool inspired by laziness. Yes, I can reach the goal in lightning speed, but I find that I am slightly disconnected to my orgasm, as I’m not able to feel it as well through the vibration. I get off, but never for as long or as intensely.
But while we are going down this road, let me say that it is also my experience that if one masturbates more than one has sex with a partner, it can make it more difficult to achieve the big O with someone else. I know exactly what feels good, when, how much….how can someone else compete with that? I think your body gets used to that direct feedback, and has a difficult time adjusting. For myself, it usually takes some time to re-adjust when I have a new partner, after a dry spell.
A while back I had one partner who had difficulty reaching orgasm without masturbation. It was hard on my ego that I couldn’t compete with his hand….and I began to wonder, when is too much of a good thing too much?
Hhmmm, RG… interesting challenge, I must say. I’m not sure that I am ready to take it quite yet, although the seed has now been planted.
We shall see how long (if at all) it takes to germinate! I’ll keep you posted as to the results! 😉
I just discovered this post and I have to say I agree. I have a couple of vibes but I rarely use them. In times gone by I used to use my vibe a lot but then I noticed that I had got to a place where I couldn’t cum without it! I also found that it was harder to control when I wanted to cum, with my fingers I can make it quick or slow and sensual and the control is much easier. With the vibe it was often too instant.
I do still use mine from time to time but I like my fingers. I do love my glass dildo though, but then that is all about the penetration. The glass dildo and my fingers are a really perfect combination.
Mollyxxx